Limp Bizkit Interviews
Interview from Modern Rock Live with Max Tolkholf..few days after new years eve..'99.
Max: Our 2nd guest tonight started Limp Bizkit back in 1994 when he started working with his long time buddy and bass player Sam Rivers, Sam brought along his cousin, John on drums, guitarist Wes, and Dj Lethal from House Of Pain soon joined..and..what the hell..you have a band now..
Fred: We have a band with the worst name in the world..
Max: What? No It's not..
Fred: You don't think so??
Max: No it's fine. Except I love everybody thinks it's "biscuit"..
Fred:Yeah..people that don't know the band they go "bizzzzzkit". "You're in Limp Bizzzzzzzkit?"
Max:Allright so tell everybody where the name came from..
Fred:Dude, it's just the stupidest name I could think of..Just sitten around one day and I was like "Dude..this is a dumb name..we gotta use it."
Max:Well the debut album is called Three Dollar Bill Ya'll, and just in case you just tuned in it's Fred from Limp Bizkit..Hi Fred.
Fred:Hi how are ya there Max?
Max: Good to have ya here..this is your 1st time on the show isn't it?
Fred: This is my 2nd.
Max: 2nd time? Must have been before my time.
Fred: What's your last name??
Fred: Is that your real last name?
Max: Yes it is.
Fred: What is that?
Max: It's uh, some sord of russian thing I'm sure.
Fred: That's a cool last name dude.
Max: I dunno..the family tree's buried somewhere.
Fred: You're stoked..
Max: So uh,you guys come from Jacksonville..how is life in Jacksonville? It's very flat there isn't it?
Fred: Dude! Lynard Skynard's from Jacksonville that's all that matters.
Max: You hear alottah that on the radio don't ya?
Fred: Dude I love Lynard Skynard don't you?
Max: Yeah of course.
Fred: Dude, I mean..I used to go out with Ronnie Van zan's daughter, Melanie Vanzan, I used to go out with her..so it's like..really cool. (laughs)..
Max: Small community down there in Jacksonville.
Fred: Yeah man, but it rules..it's really boring and there's nothin to do..umm..there's alottah cool people there and the music scene is pretty cool..there's a few bands..ya know..nobody goes there to check out bands..it's just kinda..bland..ya know..but there's alottah cool people and alottah fine chicks.
Max: So what's it like when you came outtah there? Do you go back there now and it's like..you're heros? sorda like Bakersfield and Korn?
Fred: Really noone in Jacksonville gives a damn!
Max: Really? Fred: They don't give a damn.
Max: How to you know? Maybe your records sellin like crazy in Jacksonville.
Fred: No way actully it's one of the lowest markets.
Fred: They're not impressed by much. I think that if I..ya know..was on TV uh..with a set of female and male genitals they'd probably like..like me..yeah it'd have to be like really..HEY that's cool music in the background..
Max: Ya like that?
Max: So how did the uh,..you kind of..ran into KoRn at a show in Jacksonville and then uh gave them demo tapes and they kinda discovered you and how did that whole thing come about?
Fred:Umm well KoRn was opening up for Sick Of It All..and Jon, after they played (coughs) Dood I swallowed my semen a minute ago.
Max: This could be a real problem
Fred:I'm kidding! I am kidding, I'm heterosexual everybody. Don't think any different.
Fred: But uh, Jon was standing out in the crowd ya know and I was just like "You guys are phat, sorry nobody showed up, you guys want a tattoo?" and he was like "Yeah and a couple guys in my band want a tattoo"
Max: And you're a tattoo artist.
Fred: Yeah but I had only been tattooing for like a couple weeks and I lied to em and told him i'd been tattooing for like a long time..we were drunk they were drunk..they fell for it and uh got them back to tha house I drew up this thing that said KoRn and it kinda looks like KoRn but Fieldy was so wasted he was like "Yeah..man..lets do it"..and that was that. And everybody wants to rag me about it ever since then but..I met Jon Davis first then the other guys came to my house then after a couple time meeting them when they came on town I gave em a demo..and..Fieldy gave it to Ross..and Ross started calling and..
Max: There you go..
Fred: There ya go..
Max: The rest is history..did you give them all tattoos that say like "Born to Kill on thier arm?
Fred: I gave Jon a tattoo on his butt cheeks, a big rebel flag..(laughs).
Max: (laughs)That's never coming off Jonathan!
Fred: It's really cool though instead of red white and blue he wanted me to use the irish colors, so it's kinda wierd lookin and he didn't take care of it so..anyway.
Max: Are you tattooing still?
Fred: Umm actually I haven't been tattooing in a pretty good while so the next person I tatto is gunna get a pretty shakey one.
Max: Allright let's go to the phones..and see who's out there who wants to ask ya stuff..ya ready?
Fred: Yeah man..
Max: Allright..Jessica from Jacksonville..Arkansas?? Jessica:Flordia..
Max: Oh you're from the home town??
Jessica: Yeah..I love you guys.
Fred: Where do you live at?
Jessica: On the westside..
Fred: Westside? That sucks over there!
Jessica: Oh shut up.
Fred: That's total redneck hesshan ville, you need to get your ass to the beach. What do you look like?
Jessica: uh, black hair tanned, look like a portericcan girl..
Fred: So anything you wanna know about the Bizkit?
Jessica: Is Wes really gettin married?
Fred: Wes is already married..
Jessica: Oh..my heart is crushed..
Fred: He's locked down. He's taken.
Jessica: I am a huge fan of Limp Bizkit..
BLAH BLAH BLAH SHUT UP BITCH..ok..sorry...back to the interview..
Stacy: Ok umm I seen you guys on the Conan O'brian show
Fred: Yeah..that was rad huh? Do you know who was the special guest?
Fred: Ok don't tell anybody.
Stacy: Well that was my question..What was Pauly Shore doing with you on stage?
Fred: He's a good friend of mine, he's insane in the membrane, he was in New York and I told him to come down to the studio and he showed up and decided he wanted to dance that day. So we put him on stage and let him dance..You like Pauly Shore?
Stacy:Yes he's hillarious
Fred: Cool. So umm..wait a minute..you know I took some Viagra..you know what that is?
Stacy: Yes I do.
Fred: I got it stuck in my throat though, I gotta stiff neck now..HAHA..
Max: So Fred, how was the miami new years thing?
Fred: The Miami new year's thing??
Max:Weren't you on Mtv or something?
Fred: Oh that was New York City we played right when the ball dropped dude.
Max: How was that?
Fred: It ruled. We played Prince's 1999, our own version and it was going off and uh Carson's girl was there..What's her name? Jennifer Love Hewitt?
Max: Unbelievable, so what are you gunna do next year? It's the year 2000, do you wanna be playing on New Years Eve next year or would you just wanna be observing, ya know ground zero will be the ball in New York, it's gunna be crazy.
Fred: Umm next year at this time I wanna be doing Champange Floaters, do you know what that is?
Fred: When tou just sit down with a big glass of champange and you let your testicles float in it.
Max: Ok. let's go back to the phones..
Max: Alex from berlington vermont..you're here on modern rock live with Fred from Limp Bizkit.
Fred: Alex! Keaton!
Max: Ever had a champange floater?
Alex: Haha no
Fred: You gotta try it, it sizzles!
Alex: My question is were you a good student in high school?
Fred: I was definately not a good student in school..I was the teachers favorite dude, I passed cuz I was like kissing my teachers ass, and pretty much I never did my homework I don't even know how I made it..it was like a social event for me it was a place to skateboard and rap and beatbox and break dance pretty much was school was for me.. but I did pass..I did graduate because they couldn't stand me..but that's it..I'm a loser..
Max: Chris from hartford
Chris: Hi, what is your most embarrassing moment while on tour?
Fred: My most embarrassing moment? Prolly when I played naked in France because Jonathan and his KoRn Dawgs decided to give me $500 to do it..and I did it..cuz I was broke..cuz I didn't relize the french money is like crap it's crazy dude so I had no money..I spent like $50 on deoderant or somethin...and I needed money so they said $500 bucks if I got naked and sing Faith, and it was pretty embarrassing cuz my little BoBo has shrivled up into negative form sucked up into my body this was where the helmet took a dive ya know when I was on stage in front of thousands of people..
Max: The turtle went in
Fred: The turtle did go in..haha..that was good.
Max: Thank you..uh..Melanie from St. Louis..
Melanie: hi was wondering how long have you been trying to succeed in the music busniess?
Fred: How long have we been tryin to succeed?
Fred: Hmmmmmmmm..when I was young I used to dress up like Kiss and lip sync in my living room to Kiss records..so..I would say I really started trying..aboout..in 96..what is that like 8 years ago?
Max: yeah that's french time for 8 years ago..
Fred: No, prolly like 3 years..I mean I don't even know If I have succeeded yet..
Max: Let's just talk about that, you kinda have succeeded, I mean people may not realize this becuase radio's been kinda slow to pic up on you guys, you sold over 700,000 albums now..
Fred: That's right..is that good? Is that a good?
Max: That's really good that's excellant..
Fred: Dude, it's gunna go platnum, it's gunna go double platnum prolly so..I'm not leaving this building till it does..
Max: Ok you stay here...Uh guess what we have to move along now.
Fred: I'm outtah here huh?
Max: You can stay if you want, we gotta get to the next band
Fred: Aw you guys don't like me you think I suck.
Max: No, we don't think you suck. Predictions for '99?
Fred: Predictions for 1999 is that we are about to make the phat,we ARE making the phattest record humanley possible
Max: You're right in the middle of doing a new record
Fred: Right in the middle of it and it is huge, you're gunna see people like uh..our friends back here in this back room on the record and other people..but..we are gunna take over..it's gunna be awesome, were gunna go on our own field us and korn and orgy and all of us were just gunna go shred on everybody's heads..
Max: Cool..well thanks for stoppin by come back when you can stay longer.
Fred: Dude, I'd love to. Thanks Mr. Max Tolkholf.
Max: You don't have to leave by the way you can stick around, because coming up in a moment we'll be joined Orgy on Modern Rock Live..Fred thanks..
Fred: Allright man Jay..uh..thanks Max..uh...Peter..I mean uh..hey..where are we?
Why did you decide to release two singles at the same time?
Durst Because the Beatles did it.
MTV: Why did you choose "Rollin'" and "My Generation"?
Durst: They're cool songs. I think there's not a reason right now to hit 'em with a melody so much as to hit 'em with infectious grooves. We want to put out different vibes -- a serious vibe and a fun vibe -- so "Rollin'" would be the fun vibe. "My Generation" is more like an acceptance for the blame that this generation keeps getting. It just seems to be that time in life where the finger gets pointed... pointed a lot.
I love how the Beatles used to make records and satisfy their fans, and I like when they started getting all trippy and changed their name for a record. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. You can see that in Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water. [We released] two singles; they released two singles.
I just think the past has a lot to do with everything that's going on right now [and] in the future. A lot of people have blinders on and are so zoned into the present and the future that it's good for someone who cares about the past to bring it back. It's fresh to [the fans;] they don't know what it's about and where it came from. "That's a great idea." "No, that's someone else's idea." You know? "They already did it, you just don't remember."
I always like recycling things from the past and bringing them back to our times now, because the world is a lot more open to everything. Anything and everything is almost acceptable these days; it's pretty bizarre. It's a world we created and a world we have to live in. There are some great things about the past that were simple. I think simple things are great these days, even though "Rollin'" is not a simple video. I guess it's our first one where we really have those flashy lights and sh--, but it's pretty cool. [RealVideo]
MTV: Would you ever consider working with another video director, or is it a rule that you direct every clip the band does?
Durst: I'd work with David Fincher or Tim Burton. I'm very intrigued by those two people. Or [Martin] Scorsese, which... I don't think he's going to do videos. But I think Tim Burton could come to the plate heavy-duty. I mean, I'd love to have a video like "The Nightmare Before Christmas," something like that. Somebody is going to see this now and go do it, but we've already put a call in to him.
MTV: You were talking before about how much rock music has changed over the years, but have you noticed a drastic change in music just since you released your last album? Does your music reflect any of those changes?
Durst: I figured it would be about where it is right now a couple years ago. There's a few bands who have helped open the doors for a lot of bands to express themselves these days, that like so many kinds of music -- they like rock, they like hip-hop, they like being Christians, they like being anarchists -- anything they like. It's OK to be a whole bunch of things mixed up in one. Not everything is black and white. It seems like these days, a lot of people's favorite color is plaid.
I thought when we put our record out, it would either get stomped, or it would be something that people would accept in about a year from now. It seems like people are already going, "OK, well, Limp Bizkit is a serious band. They love making music. They care about their fans, and they care about the music they make, and they don't care about anything else." "So we can hate them for that." "But they're a serious band and they're solid and they're really making music... at least we think it's music."
A lot of people don't think it's music, but I think there's something undeniable about groove, man. Regardless of how heavy metal you might be or how anti-groove you can be about something, if you're born with groove or that beat, it's just... you can't deny it. That's why Led Zeppelin was so big to me, and Elvis Presley, and Donna Summer, and the Bee Gees. I think right now the whole world is obsessed with groove. Whether it's trance music, house music, underground, drum'n'bass, Madonna's new stuff, rock bands, hip-hop bands, everything is about the groove right now. There aren't many things that aren't about the groove except for, like, Fant�mas and Mr. Bungle and some other ill sh--. [RealVideo]
MTV: By what you've said about it, Chocolate Starfish sounds like a very balanced album. You have an East Coast representation, a West Coast representation. Even with the videos, you said one's more "groove" and one's more serious. You're covering a lot of ground. Was that a conscious thing while you were recording
Durst: You figured out the recipe, brother. There you go, man. [High-fives MTV] It's all about the balance. Everything's about balance and moderation, from the food you eat to the relationships you have to the things you want. This record is about that. This record is about melody. It's about groove. It's about tension. It's about releasing yourself. It's about hip-hop. It's about rock. It's about mind trips. We have a couple of interludes that are very "Fight Club"-influenced.
t's just about listening to something that effects you emotionally, regardless of what the emotion is. Not too much tension, not too much melancholy, not too much happiness. I'm pretty sure this record is pretty balanced, and I think that's what we were headed for the whole time. Three Dollar Bill was way, way over here, and then Significant Other kinda was going here, but still was going over there too much. This one's sorta right in the middle. I could be wrong, and everybody's gonna throw eggs at me when the record comes out. Once I learn how to balance my love life, you're never gonna see me again.
MTV: Since there was a Family Values Tour album, would you consider doing an Anger Management Tour album? It's such a great lineup.
Durst: F---, no. Dude, we suck live. We're not out there making an effort to sound killer for you. We're feeding off your energy and getting into a moment and having a moment with you. You know what I mean? It's a rock show. We're singing the songs I wrote a year ago, and the only way I can feel 'em like I wrote 'em is for you to be feeling them and show me how you're feeling, and I feed off of that and I go back to where I was. I sound like sh-- and we're missing drumbeats, 'cause we're so overwhelmed by the energy and the moment. That's why we suck live. That's why there's no live Limp Bizkit record. [RealVideo]
MTV: So after shows, you guys don't sit around and go, "Dude, the guitars were too loud," or anything like that?
Durst: Hell, no. Dude, we're a rock band, and we're out to feed off the energy and if there's no energy, the show's gonna suck. I mean, bottom line. That's why we don't do TV shows for you guys or anybody without a crowd. Gotta have some kids there, or we ain't doing it. It's so stupid to sit in front of some cameras. That's what's so hard about doing a video, for us to do conceptual videos and performances, because it's so hard to feel that energy and feed that energy when you're just sitting in front of cameras and some camera guys. You know, like you.
MTV: When we talked to you before Significant Other came out, you were totally nervous about it, and then the album took off and exploded. Do you feel less pressure now, since you've developed an even bigger fan base, or do you feel more pressure to make your fans happy?
Durst: Way more pressure. You're Mark McGuire. Every time you get up to bat, if you don't hit a home run, man... [Shakes head] You know what I mean? You've gotta be better than your last at bat, it seems, to the attention spans of today. You go out and sell 8 million records. So that's 8 million people, man, that's not 500,000 people -- 500,000 is a lot of people -- you have 8 million people going, "Oh, man, what's it gonna be now?" If it's not up to their expectations, then you sorta lose. You sorta created the end of your existence. You've set a forecast of that happening.
Unfortunately, that's the way it is, and we're very aware of it. We make sure to take all the input from our fans and what they liked and hated. We had to put our heads together and go, "We have to satisfy these people that are mad and upset with us," or "the people that only like this on this record and this." We do that, and at the same time the people who are just now liking Limp Bizkit, we have to make it palatable for them and don't overwhelm 'em, but still be ourselves and still write what we're gonna write.
God's just taken care of us, man. This record could bomb, and I'm real worried that if it doesn't do good in a lot of people's eyes, it will be their wish come true to hopefully see an end to Limp Bizkit. [It's] a very popular thing for critics these days, to forecast that. It's up to us and our fans, and it's up to the music to touch our fans, and we'll find out soon enough, I guess. I'm real worried. [RealVideo]
But I love the record, man. If it doesn't do good and we go away -- we're not going to stop what we do, but we're real proud of it, and I think it's really deep, and I think I'll always love it. I won't change because the people don't like it. I'll take their input and it will help and influence me and our fans, but I think the fact that we don't make an effort to change things and do things differently -- we just kinda do what we do -- I think that's the key. Once you start making an effort to be a certain way, it shows through, and you become fake in a lot of people's eyes who really get it, and a lot of our fans really get it. They understand. So... I don't really know what the f--- I'm talking about anymore.
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